Posts by life is to short

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Why would anyone think the 7 times of Daniel 4 should have two fulfillments?

by jwfacts in

each prophecy in daniel had only one fulfilment.

why believe inconsistently that daniel 4:9-32 should have two fulfillments?.

daniel 2: an immense image representing kingdoms.

as a born in, one of my earliest thoughts has always been jehovah has an angel that writes down everything in a big book, all the good things that happen to me/others and everything bad that happens to me/others.

i faithfully and honestly believed that.. in march of this year i read c of c. by 5 am the next morning i was out.

24 hours before, a true, steadfast believer.

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I am so sorry for all you have went through and am so glad you have found this board.

This religion causes so much pain in so many of our lives.

I want to thank you for your pm's to me they truly have meet a lot. It is so sad to know that you are not alone in the abuse that this religion gives out, I never wanted anyone to go through the pain I have but it seems like there are many of have suffered also. I always thought it was just me, that I was alone and that I had the problem but now being on this board I know that there are a lot of people out there that have been hurt so much also.

Thanks for sharing your story.

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New video: Stephen Lett warns about "Women's Lip"

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citaz613koc.

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cedars.

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Yep that's what cased my husband to be deleted as an elder after 32 years because I was not in subjection enough and spoke up about the pedophiles in the hall. I did not know my place it seemed.

I am truly not joking that is what the body told my husband when they deleted him was the reason was because he could not keep me in subjection.
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Video of the Annual Meeting / new FDS understanding on JW.org

by cedars in

i apologize if this is old news or has already been discussed, but i notice the society has posted a video commenting on the annual meeting and the adjusted understanding of matthew 24:45 on jw.org.. here is the link.... http://www.jw.org/en/news/events-activities/video-clip-2012-annual-meeting-program/.

thoughts?.

cedars.

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Conti v Watchtower - Court Denies Watchtower Motion re: Substituting Bond - November 16 court documents in pdf

by jwleaks in

jw leaks has published the latest court documents, in pdf, relating to "candace conti v the watchtower bible and tract society of new york" as filed on november 16, 2012.. the watchtower society motion to substitute or reduce bond on appeal is denied.. www.jwleaks.org.

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"I'm scratching my head along with Ann here. I thought settlement was a legal vehicle for ending a civil dispute prior to trial. Isn't it a little late for the defendant to attempt to negotiate a settlement once the plaintiff has won? Doesn't the court order the settlement and fix the amount at that point?"

I am with Ann and TD also. I too thought that the court order was the finally word on it unless they win the appeal, I do not understand how they can now try to settle out of court with a gag.

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History of Head Covering for JW Women

by UnDisfellowshipped in

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it is not a case of her being appointed to conduct a congregational meeting.

in such cases the dedicated brother should offer the prayer, and the sister may conduct the study with her head covered.

for if a woman does not cover herself, let her also be shorn.1 cor.

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I was raised in the religion but by parents who never studied with me and I was never allowed to ask questions. It was just do as I was told period. So what I knew about the"truth" was what I learned was from the meetings and personal study.

My dad was not baptized until I was 12 years old and all four of us were baptized together, my mom sister dad and I. We never ate dinner at the table always just sitting in front of the TV or at fast food places. We NEVER PRAYED as a family NEVER. It was like my parents were against praying. I know, I know it was strange. I grew up in a totally nut case family.

So here I am 16 years old, baptized and I was given this study with a 20 something year old women who had been raised around the truth but never baptized. This one day only an elder who was in his 60 was out in service so it was just the two of us.

So here we are at my study and I am really stressed out conducting in front of this elder who is very, very, very hard core. So of course the elder says the prayer and then he expects me to conduct the study. So I am trying so hard to be perfect and he says to us the study and I "what about the angles?" I am totally confused and just look blankly at him. He again says the angles are watching you know! I was again just thinking OK so the angles are watching and what am I doing wrong? The study is as confused as I am.

Turns out he was flipped out and mad that I did not have a head covering. I had never heard of it. Somehow I must have missed the meetings it was talked about the study also did not know.

I was horrified. I would up putting a paper towel on my head. I truly thought the elder was crazy until I got home and looked it up. I just could not believe that JW's truly believed that women were to put head coverings on, it just seemed totally crazy.

OH how I wished that had woken me up at only 16 but my family was so crazy that the JW's seemed normal and I stayed until I was in my 40's I so wish I could go back in time and tell my 16 year old self to RUN!!!
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You cant use Patterson! Court denies Watchtowers bond motion

by cedars in

here's my article on the latest development in the conti case.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/you-cant-use-patterson-court-denies-watchtowers-bond-motion.

i've tried to write it in such a way as to explain what's going on for people (like myself) who struggle to understand complex legal issues.. i've also availed myself of the help of a valued poster on this forum who wishes to remain anonymous.. i hope people will find the article helpful.

as always, if people notice any problems with it, please let me know (as kindly as possible!

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Thanks ceaders and so glad to have you back.

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Remembering Our Dear Richard Rawe

by Dogpatch in

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richard m. rawe was born may 10, 1934. he died in his sleep a little before midnight, october 26, 1012, in soap lake, washington.

his death was caused by probable acute myocardial infarction and cardiovascular disease.. in 1995, richard had a major stroke that left him with damage to his vocal cords.

previous to the stroke he had a beautiful speaking voice and was much in demand as a speaker in kingdom halls in the northwest when he was a jehovahs witness prior to 1975. in his later years, richard was the host with the raspy, croaky voice of the dialogue telephone conference-line program which hundreds of people listened to twice a month on saturday evening.. up until his death, richard was an attractive, partially balding, gray-haired man, still tall and elegant in appearance, who carried himself with class and dignity no matter how bad he physically felt.

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Thanks Randy for posting this.

I never met Richard but I talked to him many, many times on the phone. He tried to help me get the fact that my hall was sending pedophiles door to door on our local news. I truly wish it had worked out but it was not due to Richard not trying. Richard did everything he could to help me.

He will be greatly missed for all of his very hard work and it truly is sad that he is gone.

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Having small children go door to door without their parents.

by life is to short in

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ok so my husband still goes out in service.

last weekend he worked with an elder who is in his late 50's, another brother who is in his mid 60's, my husband is in his mid 60's and the idiot who conducted the meeting put a eight or nine year old girl with them.. i asked my husband why?

he said he thought it was strange also.

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cagefighter

I am not still in the cult! My husband is and I have no choose about his going in field service.

In fact I totally hate it. My husband wonders why we do not have a marriage and blames me.

I work Monday through Friday, he is gone Saturday and Sunday to the cult. Yet it is my fault we do not spend time together.

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Why not hold Whitneys Heichels memorial where everyone could attend?

by life is to short in

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this question has been brothering me for awhile.

why did whitney heichel's family not hold her memorial in a large place such as a school gymnasium?.

we have has memorial's where i live which is about 600 miles from portland or and our city has places that are large enough for 2000 or more.

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If they felt that way then way accept the gifts of money that the worldy people gave them and also all the time the worldy people gave if they have to grive alone.

I am not trying to be uncarring toward the family in any way as you keyser is indacating but not just the family was affected and to people who helped look for Whitney and who knew her to be shut out of her memorial seems very uncarring. Their money is OK to take from them but to not let them come to the memotial just seens uncarring. The family did not even have to be there if they were in such grif.

Also Clint the husband had a pay pal account set up where prople could donate money just the Monday after they found her so his griff was not so bad as he was not above accepting money.

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